I don't think you need the feathers How are things supposed to fly without feathers? I think just the pig's bladders are fine -- with the glue they have a nice seal Put the feathers on Have you tried it without the feahters? the feathers poke holes in the pigs bladders We seal up the holes after we put the feathers in But the feathers pop out, and then the gas escapes. We're using better glue this time Have you tried it without the feathers? I don't think it needs the feathers You're so ignorant. How are things supposed to fly without feathers? But the feathers poke holes in the pigs bladders, which lets out the gas, which is what is flying You keep saying that, but feathers have the lightness we need. Osiris measures your heart with a feather! If it's good enough for him ,it's good enough for me I just think you're going to get further without feathers I can't believe someone so ignorant is talking to me. We've had dozens of meetings about this.